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		<title>By: Ugo Cei: Must be the air or the water &#124; Server software</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2007/04/19/idiotmongers/comment-page-1/#comment-97799</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugo Cei: Must be the air or the water &#124; Server software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 09:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What&#8217;s the problem with religious leaders in Sidney? We already established some time ago, that its Catholic Archbishop, George Pell, is a moron. Now we learn that its Anglican Arcbhbishop, Peter Jensen is not even able to answer a simple question like: &#8220;What parts of the Bible should we believe?&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What&#8217;s the problem with religious leaders in Sidney? We already established some time ago, that its Catholic Archbishop, George Pell, is a moron. Now we learn that its Anglican Arcbhbishop, Peter Jensen is not even able to answer a simple question like: &#8220;What parts of the Bible should we believe?&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Agylen &#187; Must be the air or the water</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2007/04/19/idiotmongers/comment-page-1/#comment-97779</link>
		<dc:creator>Agylen &#187; Must be the air or the water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 07:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What&#8217;s the problem with religious leaders in Sidney? We already established some time ago, that its Catholic Archbishop, George Pell, is a moron. Now we learn that its Anglican Arcbhbishop, Peter Jensen is not even able to answer a simple question like: &#8220;What parts of the Bible should we believe?&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What&#8217;s the problem with religious leaders in Sidney? We already established some time ago, that its Catholic Archbishop, George Pell, is a moron. Now we learn that its Anglican Arcbhbishop, Peter Jensen is not even able to answer a simple question like: &#8220;What parts of the Bible should we believe?&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ugo</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2007/04/19/idiotmongers/comment-page-1/#comment-89040</link>
		<dc:creator>ugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 07:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

saying that global warming is not real because January was cool and we had Noah&#039;s flood before is beyond moronic.

Using half-truths and outright lies to support your position is intellectually dishonest.

Abusing the authority that is offered to you by your religious affiliation in order to fool and deceive people is deeply immoral.

You can be a global warming denialist without being a religious man, but it takes religion to believe that the Noah Flood myth is history.

Now tell me, John, why shouldn&#039;t we attack Pell&#039;s dangerous ideas? We do because they are stupid, wrong and dangerous and deserve no respect at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>saying that global warming is not real because January was cool and we had Noah&#8217;s flood before is beyond moronic.</p>
<p>Using half-truths and outright lies to support your position is intellectually dishonest.</p>
<p>Abusing the authority that is offered to you by your religious affiliation in order to fool and deceive people is deeply immoral.</p>
<p>You can be a global warming denialist without being a religious man, but it takes religion to believe that the Noah Flood myth is history.</p>
<p>Now tell me, John, why shouldn&#8217;t we attack Pell&#8217;s dangerous ideas? We do because they are stupid, wrong and dangerous and deserve no respect at all.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2007/04/19/idiotmongers/comment-page-1/#comment-88171</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 14:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you misunderstood my comment, I meant his different ideas on global warming. 
He obviously believes his views on global warming are correct, I do not , however that dosen&#039;t make him a moron. People are sometimes wrong, even religious ones, sometimes you can convince them they are , sometimes you can&#039;t. But by resorting to the type of commentary on his position,and his religion, in the fashion you have chosen tends to weaken the argument you are trying to express.
I hope you understand where I was comming from .
Thanks for the space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you misunderstood my comment, I meant his different ideas on global warming.<br />
He obviously believes his views on global warming are correct, I do not , however that dosen&#8217;t make him a moron. People are sometimes wrong, even religious ones, sometimes you can convince them they are , sometimes you can&#8217;t. But by resorting to the type of commentary on his position,and his religion, in the fashion you have chosen tends to weaken the argument you are trying to express.<br />
I hope you understand where I was comming from .<br />
Thanks for the space.</p>
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		<title>By: ugo</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2007/04/19/idiotmongers/comment-page-1/#comment-87927</link>
		<dc:creator>ugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 20:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

I&#039;m not attacking Pell for being a religious man. I&#039;m attacking him for writing stupid and dangerous things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not attacking Pell for being a religious man. I&#8217;m attacking him for writing stupid and dangerous things.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2007/04/19/idiotmongers/comment-page-1/#comment-87926</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 20:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that you are not a religious man.Many of us have our doubts. It is not a reason to attack a person with ideas that differ from yours. I also am a skeptic , however I will listen to and try to understand the view of others. Most are aware that there is a real threat from global warming, those who are close to their religion would tend to believe that GOD would not let something like this to happen,I , one who doubts but hopes that there is a GOD, believe that if he/she ( politically correct) is out there he/she would indeed let us destroy our world if we were that stupid.The archbishop does not. Well enough about religion. Global warming is real how much time we have to correct it I don&#039;t know, I&#039;m 55 and probably will be gone before things get too bad. I do envy the younger generations to come however. If they can fix the many problems we have today with the technology that is evolving this might just be a very wonderful place to be in the not to distant future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that you are not a religious man.Many of us have our doubts. It is not a reason to attack a person with ideas that differ from yours. I also am a skeptic , however I will listen to and try to understand the view of others. Most are aware that there is a real threat from global warming, those who are close to their religion would tend to believe that GOD would not let something like this to happen,I , one who doubts but hopes that there is a GOD, believe that if he/she ( politically correct) is out there he/she would indeed let us destroy our world if we were that stupid.The archbishop does not. Well enough about religion. Global warming is real how much time we have to correct it I don&#8217;t know, I&#8217;m 55 and probably will be gone before things get too bad. I do envy the younger generations to come however. If they can fix the many problems we have today with the technology that is evolving this might just be a very wonderful place to be in the not to distant future.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis Drew</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2007/04/19/idiotmongers/comment-page-1/#comment-87359</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 18:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t God promise Noah that he would never again destroy the world by flood -- so what are you worried about?  :-]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t God promise Noah that he would never again destroy the world by flood &#8212; so what are you worried about?  :-]</p>
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		<title>By: merowig</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2007/04/19/idiotmongers/comment-page-1/#comment-86222</link>
		<dc:creator>merowig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 17:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t have doubts regarding the flood....


http://www.flood-myth.com/index.html

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/blacksea/index.html

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0105/online_extra.html

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0105/feature3/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t have doubts regarding the flood&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flood-myth.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.flood-myth.com/index.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalgeographic.com/blacksea/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalgeographic.com/blacksea/index.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0105/online_extra.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0105/online_extra.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0105/feature3/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0105/feature3/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Edouardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edouardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that religion, specially the catholic religion, has lost it&#039;s purpose. They are guiding the faith by a book that was written thousands of years ago in a time when some things like global warming was not present. And since they don&#039;t have an answer in the bible about that, they don&#039;t know what to think about it.


And by the way........ If someone could invite me to joost...i would appreciate it so much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that religion, specially the catholic religion, has lost it&#8217;s purpose. They are guiding the faith by a book that was written thousands of years ago in a time when some things like global warming was not present. And since they don&#8217;t have an answer in the bible about that, they don&#8217;t know what to think about it.</p>
<p>And by the way&#8230;&#8230;.. If someone could invite me to joost&#8230;i would appreciate it so much</p>
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		<title>By: Ingerenze ambientali &#171; DaveriK</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ingerenze ambientali &#171; DaveriK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: daverik</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2007/04/19/idiotmongers/comment-page-1/#comment-85991</link>
		<dc:creator>daverik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart of the Noah&#039;s flood, I strongly agree with Cardinal Pell. 
Man-made global warming is based on propaganda, a bunch of people who are the closest green advisors of the leaders all around the world. 
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&amp;q=swindle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart of the Noah&#8217;s flood, I strongly agree with Cardinal Pell.<br />
Man-made global warming is based on propaganda, a bunch of people who are the closest green advisors of the leaders all around the world.<br />
<a href="http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&amp;q=swindle" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&amp;q=swindle</a></p>
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		<title>By: ugo</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2007/04/19/idiotmongers/comment-page-1/#comment-81567</link>
		<dc:creator>ugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, I think all myths have some sort of factual origin.

This, unfortunately, does nothing to help poor Cardinal Pell in relieving him of the responsibility of having uttered a complete idiocy when he defined Noah&#039;s flood an historical event.

This is akin to saying that, since Troy really existed, Homer&#039;s Iliad is a historical document and Paris did really kidnap Helen and Ulysses really invented the wooden horse (with the help of some deity, nonetheless).

This is beyond stupid.

Using this argument to support an irresponsible and dangerous opinion on global warming and conservation is not only stupid. It&#039;s fundamentally evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, I think all myths have some sort of factual origin.</p>
<p>This, unfortunately, does nothing to help poor Cardinal Pell in relieving him of the responsibility of having uttered a complete idiocy when he defined Noah&#8217;s flood an historical event.</p>
<p>This is akin to saying that, since Troy really existed, Homer&#8217;s Iliad is a historical document and Paris did really kidnap Helen and Ulysses really invented the wooden horse (with the help of some deity, nonetheless).</p>
<p>This is beyond stupid.</p>
<p>Using this argument to support an irresponsible and dangerous opinion on global warming and conservation is not only stupid. It&#8217;s fundamentally evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Depa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Depa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.
I don&#039;t like the way cardinal Pell uses to express his ideas, but, how can you be so sure that there is no historical event behind the Noah&#039;s flood?
See, for example http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_noah.htm.
I don&#039;t want to support the statements in the URL above, but I just want to suggest that behind that story there could be a real catastrophe.
Or maybe you have better scientific sources which can exclude it at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.<br />
I don&#8217;t like the way cardinal Pell uses to express his ideas, but, how can you be so sure that there is no historical event behind the Noah&#8217;s flood?<br />
See, for example <a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_noah.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_noah.htm</a>.<br />
I don&#8217;t want to support the statements in the URL above, but I just want to suggest that behind that story there could be a real catastrophe.<br />
Or maybe you have better scientific sources which can exclude it at all?</p>
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