Comments on: Spring 2.0: What breaks? http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/ Ugo Cei's Weblog Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:02:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Antonio Lagnada http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-53014 Antonio Lagnada Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:36:06 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-53014 I can vouch for what Matt had said about "Nothing" should break. It is the same experience that I've gone through upgrading Spring 1.2.x apps to 2.0. Spring is saweeeeet! I can vouch for what Matt had said about “Nothing” should break. It is the same experience that I’ve gone through upgrading Spring 1.2.x apps to 2.0.

Spring is saweeeeet!

]]> By: Artioma http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-34393 Artioma Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:19:17 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-34393 Preved! Nice resourse! Kagdila? I'm medved Preved! Nice resourse! Kagdila? I’m medved

]]> By: Agylen » Spring 2.0 released http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-32435 Agylen » Spring 2.0 released Tue, 03 Oct 2006 12:41:15 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-32435 [...] What I expect from it is a mostly painless upgrade of several projects I have running on Spring 1.2 and the usual commitment to quality and excellence. As far as new features are concerned, I’ve got at least one good use case for scoping beans to an HTTP request. The other new features can be adopted gradually. [...] […] What I expect from it is a mostly painless upgrade of several projects I have running on Spring 1.2 and the usual commitment to quality and excellence. As far as new features are concerned, I’ve got at least one good use case for scoping beans to an HTTP request. The other new features can be adopted gradually. […]

]]> By: somebody http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-872 somebody Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:12:52 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-872 Yes ugo you have bad-interpred the words of zazzaorone. I am not italian but that language has similaritites with mine and what you have translated is not correct or it is out of context. Yes ugo you have bad-interpred the words of zazzaorone. I am not italian but that language has similaritites with mine and what you have translated is not correct or it is out of context.

]]> By: somebody http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-871 somebody Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:07:30 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-871 I my opinion the number "2.0" is more marketing than a "new great version". Its continuation of Spring 1.2.6 with more additions. So the normal is that spring don't break applications Spring es great!!! I my opinion the number “2.0″ is more marketing than a “new great version”. Its continuation of Spring 1.2.6 with more additions. So the normal is that spring don’t break applications

Spring es great!!!

]]> By: zazzarone http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-805 zazzarone Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:34:39 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-805 I've noticed...Sorry! I've seen other italian posts and... I don't undestand why you have make this flame but probably i've hurt you or someone: I make my excuses. I want to assure You that I have not begun some fight against the open-source: I like Spring and I admire the os-authors! However my words have been misinterpreted and You have pointed out only to the "Italian Problem" and to my bad english and You haven't traslated my other senteces. I've asked if someone in Italy has made some IOC work: it need this kind of answer? I do not want to bore to you beyond, so again: excuses for all! I’ve noticed…Sorry! I’ve seen other italian posts and…
I don’t undestand why you have make this flame but probably i’ve hurt you or someone: I make my excuses. I want to assure You that I have not begun some fight against the open-source: I like Spring and I admire the os-authors! However my words have been misinterpreted and You have pointed out only to the “Italian Problem” and to my bad english and You haven’t traslated my other senteces. I’ve asked if someone in Italy has made some IOC work: it need this kind of answer? I do not want to bore to you beyond, so again: excuses for all!

]]> By: ugo http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-802 ugo Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:33:33 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-802 zazzarone: have you noticed this blog is in English? ;) For the majority of non-Italian speaking people here, I will translate (and proceed to flame) you last sentence. "What did we learn from Spring (the latest commercial invention of the pseudo-open-world)?" What do you find commercial and not open about Spring? The fact that all its code is available under the Apache License, which makes it suitable for open source and closed source products as well? And by the way, why should we care whether a project is "Italian" or not? Why should the fact that a project was developed in a particular country be an advantage over a world-wide developer base like Spring has? I see no advantage, unless your English communication skills are severely impaired, in which case I suggest that you either learn it or change field of interest. Doing yet another IOC container just because it would be Italian strikes me as a peculiar way to waste away your precious time and energy, which could be better directed at contributing to an existing project. zazzarone: have you noticed this blog is in English? ;) For the majority of non-Italian speaking people here, I will translate (and proceed to flame) you last sentence.

“What did we learn from Spring (the latest commercial invention of the pseudo-open-world)?”

What do you find commercial and not open about Spring? The fact that all its code is available under the Apache License, which makes it suitable for open source and closed source products as well?

And by the way, why should we care whether a project is “Italian” or not? Why should the fact that a project was developed in a particular country be an advantage over a world-wide developer base like Spring has? I see no advantage, unless your English communication skills are severely impaired, in which case I suggest that you either learn it or change field of interest.

Doing yet another IOC container just because it would be Italian strikes me as a peculiar way to waste away your precious time and energy, which could be better directed at contributing to an existing project.

]]> By: banq http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-800 banq Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:44:57 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-800 >After proving everything worked (in a browser), It is good, but not only for Spring, it is same for all Ioc/AOP framework. I have the same exeperience with jdon framework that it is Ioc/Aop framework ,and have better performance than spring. https://jdon.dev.java.net/ JPetstore with Jdon http://www.jdon.com:8080/jpetstore/index.html >After proving everything worked (in a browser),
It is good, but not only for Spring, it is same for all Ioc/AOP framework.

I have the same exeperience with jdon framework that it is Ioc/Aop framework ,and have better performance than spring.

https://jdon.dev.java.net/

JPetstore with Jdon
http://www.jdon.com:8080/jpetstore/index.html

]]> By: zazzarone http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-797 zazzarone Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:33:33 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-797 Spring è un ottimo framework; ho personalmente apprezzato, per quanto strano vi possa sembrare, non le feature da "mago merlino"(AOP,Injection,etc,etc), ma la possibilità di sfruttare solo i moduli d'interesse creando, ad esempio la mia infrastruttura per il DB o architettura SOA...In generale penso che essere così categorici sia sbagliato, anche se Spring è un bel prodotto...Cresce troppo in fretta e poi quali sono le considerazioni sull'impatto di Spring sul design(non parlatemi di mock e ioc, c'è anche altro)...Altra curiosità ma...Esiste qualche progetto IOC italiano? Cosa abbiamo imparato da Spring( ennesima trovata commerciale del pseudo-mondo-open)? Spring è un ottimo framework; ho personalmente apprezzato, per quanto strano vi possa sembrare, non le feature da “mago merlino”(AOP,Injection,etc,etc), ma la possibilità di sfruttare solo i moduli d’interesse creando, ad esempio la mia infrastruttura per il DB o architettura SOA…In generale penso che essere così categorici sia sbagliato, anche se Spring è un bel prodotto…Cresce troppo in fretta e poi quali sono le considerazioni sull’impatto di Spring sul design(non parlatemi di mock e ioc, c’è anche altro)…Altra curiosità ma…Esiste qualche progetto IOC italiano? Cosa abbiamo imparato da Spring( ennesima trovata commerciale del pseudo-mondo-open)?

]]> By: Smoker’s Area » Developing J2EE applications without Spring? Why? http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-788 Smoker’s Area » Developing J2EE applications without Spring? Why? Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:56:47 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-788 [...] Insomma, pare che il porting alla versione 2.0 sia abbastanza indolore. Si tratterà di aggiornare qualcosa negli XML di configurazione, ridepoloyare e via. Quindi, Spring Rulez!. Tanto che viene da chiedersi perchè “non” si dovrebbe utilizzare Spring nelle applicazioni J2EE. E se lo chiedono IM molti. Dall’italiano Ugo Cei fino al kilometrico thread su TheServerSide.com Io la mia scelta l’ho fatta. Le mie applicazioni J2EE sono tutte powered by Spring-framework google_ad_client = "pub-3008261122671774"; google_ad_width = 234; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = "234x60_as"; google_ad_type = "text_image"; google_ad_channel =""; google_color_border = "50593A"; google_color_bg = "7D8B5A"; google_color_link = "F4E126"; google_color_url = "000000"; google_color_text = "FFFFFF"; --> [...] […] Insomma, pare che il porting alla versione 2.0 sia abbastanza indolore. Si tratterà di aggiornare qualcosa negli XML di configurazione, ridepoloyare e via. Quindi, Spring Rulez!. Tanto che viene da chiedersi perchè “non” si dovrebbe utilizzare Spring nelle applicazioni J2EE. E se lo chiedono IM molti. Dall’italiano Ugo Cei fino al kilometrico thread su TheServerSide.com Io la mia scelta l’ho fatta. Le mie applicazioni J2EE sono tutte powered by Spring-framework google_ad_client = “pub-3008261122671774″; google_ad_width = 234; google_ad_height = 60; google_ad_format = “234×60_as”; google_ad_type = “text_image”; google_ad_channel =”"; google_color_border = “50593A”; google_color_bg = “7D8B5A”; google_color_link = “F4E126″; google_color_url = “000000″; google_color_text = “FFFFFF”; –> […]

]]> By: Smoker's Area http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-787 Smoker's Area Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:22:19 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-787 <strong>Developing J2EE applications without Spring? Why?</strong> Dalla conferenza The Spring Experience che si è tenuta dal 7 al 10 Dicembre in Florida, Matt Raible ha postato un interessante resoconto della sessione tenuta da Rod Johnson (il papà di Spring) sulla versione 2.0 di Spring. Prima ottima notizia è l&... Developing J2EE applications without Spring? Why?

Dalla conferenza The Spring Experience che si è tenuta dal 7 al 10 Dicembre in Florida, Matt Raible ha postato un interessante resoconto della sessione tenuta da Rod Johnson (il papà di Spring) sulla versione 2.0 di Spring.
Prima ottima notizia è l&…

]]> By: shinpei http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-785 shinpei Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:57:05 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-785 >And, I recommend you a new DI container named S Well, this is my typo. It should be "And, I recommend you a new DI container named Seasar2". >And, I recommend you a new DI container named S

Well, this is my typo.
It should be
“And, I recommend you a new DI container named Seasar2″.

]]> By: shinpei http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-784 shinpei Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:37:35 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-784 >When I read things like this, >I seriously wonder why anyone would want to > develop anything substantial in Java >nowadays without using Spring. You exactly feel what I feel. And, I recommend you a new DI container named S If you are interested, please visit out site. (And we are always welcome any comments) -http://www.seasar.org/en/index.html -http://www.seasar.org/en/tutorial/index.html Also I need to mention that our recent theme is "Less Configuration" which you might want to se Please see http://s2container.seasar.org/en/index.html >When I read things like this,
>I seriously wonder why anyone would want to
> develop anything substantial in Java
>nowadays without using Spring.

You exactly feel what I feel.
And, I recommend you a new DI container named S

If you are interested, please visit out site.
(And we are always welcome any comments)

-http://www.seasar.org/en/index.html
-http://www.seasar.org/en/tutorial/index.html

Also I need to mention that our recent theme is
“Less Configuration” which you might want to se

Please see
http://s2container.seasar.org/en/index.html

]]> By: Ryan http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-783 Ryan Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:48:39 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-783 That is certainly encouraging, I just hope it pans when 2.0 is relased. We're starting to consider Spring on a few projects a my company. That is certainly encouraging, I just hope it pans when 2.0 is relased. We’re starting to consider Spring on a few projects a my company.

]]> By: Agylen » Say “Hello!” to the TSS crowd http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-782 Agylen » Say “Hello!” to the TSS crowd Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:51:22 +0000 http://agylen.com/2005/12/12/spring-20-what-breaks/#comment-782 [...] title="Spring - java/j2ee Application Framework"> width="100" height="45" border="0" alt="Spring Framework" align="right"/>My recent post on Spring 2.0 was featured on the front page of TheServerSide. This brought some nice traffic, but most people left immediately and nobody bothered to leave even a short comment. Probably those who felt like commenting did so on TheServerSide’s own forum. [...] […] title=”Spring - java/j2ee Application Framework”> width=”100″ height=”45″ border=”0″ alt=”Spring Framework” align=”right”/>My recent post on Spring 2.0 was featured on the front page of TheServerSide. This brought some nice traffic, but most people left immediately and nobody bothered to leave even a short comment. Probably those who felt like commenting did so on TheServerSide’s own forum. […]

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