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	<title>Comments on: Forty Faces: A suggestion</title>
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		<title>By: Philipp Lenssen</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2005/11/12/forty-faces-a-suggestion/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>Philipp Lenssen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess what, your suggestion was (almost) implemented just now. I had to limit each blogger to a maximum of 3 posts -- because the face was filled with almost exclusively one face!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess what, your suggestion was (almost) implemented just now. I had to limit each blogger to a maximum of 3 posts &#8212; because the face was filled with almost exclusively one face!</p>
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		<title>By: Philipp Lenssen</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2005/11/12/forty-faces-a-suggestion/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>Philipp Lenssen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree having half a dozen pics in a row from one blogger is sub-optimal. If I can find an alternative that's self-explanatory from just by looking at the page, maybe that would be something to go for. I will keep watching how the site evolves. Maybe (just maybe) this is a weekend phenomenon -- only some bloggers post on the weekend.

Hmm. I could put up a limit per hour. But then, what if someone publishes the post of his life (or his week) and it will get lost then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree having half a dozen pics in a row from one blogger is sub-optimal. If I can find an alternative that&#8217;s self-explanatory from just by looking at the page, maybe that would be something to go for. I will keep watching how the site evolves. Maybe (just maybe) this is a weekend phenomenon &#8212; only some bloggers post on the weekend.</p>
<p>Hmm. I could put up a limit per hour. But then, what if someone publishes the post of his life (or his week) and it will get lost then?</p>
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		<title>By: ugo</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2005/11/12/forty-faces-a-suggestion/#comment-543</link>
		<dc:creator>ugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philipp, I agree with pretty much all you wrote, but in this particular moment most of FortyFaces' space "above the fold" is monopolized by seven pictures of Nishi. This pushed Wendy Cheng's picture (who is much cuter than Nishi) down :(.

Maybe you could compress consecutive pictures of the same blogger into one, with some way (a popup div or something) to list all their posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philipp, I agree with pretty much all you wrote, but in this particular moment most of FortyFaces&#8217; space &#8220;above the fold&#8221; is monopolized by seven pictures of Nishi. This pushed Wendy Cheng&#8217;s picture (who is much cuter than Nishi) down :(.</p>
<p>Maybe you could compress consecutive pictures of the same blogger into one, with some way (a popup div or something) to list all their posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Philipp Lenssen</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2005/11/12/forty-faces-a-suggestion/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>Philipp Lenssen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://agylen.com/2005/11/12/forty-faces-a-suggestion/#comment-542</guid>
		<description>First of all, you're right if the site grows without me changing it, it could "explode" one day. But I don't intend to put up any of my sites as "finished" products -- in fact, my design approach is to change just when necessary but not earlier.

For example, I believe a forum needs threads only if it has more than 1 post a week. And I believe it only needs a expand/collapse multi-thread view if it has around 20 threads per day. It needs moderation only if there's so much spam you can't read through it anymore. And so on. With the growth of a community, so must the approachs grow too.

So what happens when the amount of bloggers increase and the amount of new posts is more than 40 per half hour (the current refresh rate)? Just putting up one photo of each won't be satisfying, because I may want to read all posts of a certain person, and I want to get a feeling how often he posts. After all, I'm linking to the post itself and not the blog.

To make a long story short, if that happens I will start to have blog content categories. The front-page will then change its functionality to "track all bloggers of Forty Faces" to "get completely random blog posts of bloggers of Forty Faces". But if you want to track a certain topic, like www.fortyfaces.com/programming/ or www.fortyfaces.com/design/ or www.fortyfaces.com/sports/ and so on. This approach is of course expandable in itself by having sub-categories -- which again I would only introduce if the single-category approach won't suffice. Then we'd have www.fortyfaces.com/programming/c-sharp/ and so on.

Now here's a caveat. Up to a certain point, the growth is only limited to my ideas, sure. But as soon as I have 10,000 RSS feeds to scan every thirty minutes, my server limitation itself might pose a problem. And then I have to find ways to grow my server, which I only do if I can find ways to monetize the site; so up to a certain limit, I'm fine with making no money, but as soon as I must pay lots of money for the site, I intend to find an income model *or* limit the amount of bloggers I accept (I can not only do this by shutting down the site, but e.g. by analyzing post frequencies similar to thwat Google does when they check pages -- if you never change the RSS, I will check it less and less until the point I might only check it once a month... and as soon as the posting frequency increases, so will my "spider" increase the checks again.)

I am actively thinking of expanding the site into other areas, too. Feedback like this here helps me shape the site, and actually while writing this comment I had a few new ideas :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, you&#8217;re right if the site grows without me changing it, it could &#8220;explode&#8221; one day. But I don&#8217;t intend to put up any of my sites as &#8220;finished&#8221; products &#8212; in fact, my design approach is to change just when necessary but not earlier.</p>
<p>For example, I believe a forum needs threads only if it has more than 1 post a week. And I believe it only needs a expand/collapse multi-thread view if it has around 20 threads per day. It needs moderation only if there&#8217;s so much spam you can&#8217;t read through it anymore. And so on. With the growth of a community, so must the approachs grow too.</p>
<p>So what happens when the amount of bloggers increase and the amount of new posts is more than 40 per half hour (the current refresh rate)? Just putting up one photo of each won&#8217;t be satisfying, because I may want to read all posts of a certain person, and I want to get a feeling how often he posts. After all, I&#8217;m linking to the post itself and not the blog.</p>
<p>To make a long story short, if that happens I will start to have blog content categories. The front-page will then change its functionality to &#8220;track all bloggers of Forty Faces&#8221; to &#8220;get completely random blog posts of bloggers of Forty Faces&#8221;. But if you want to track a certain topic, like <a href="http://www.fortyfaces.com/programming/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fortyfaces.com/programming/</a> or <a href="http://www.fortyfaces.com/design/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fortyfaces.com/design/</a> or <a href="http://www.fortyfaces.com/sports/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fortyfaces.com/sports/</a> and so on. This approach is of course expandable in itself by having sub-categories &#8212; which again I would only introduce if the single-category approach won&#8217;t suffice. Then we&#8217;d have <a href="http://www.fortyfaces.com/programming/c-sharp/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fortyfaces.com/programming/c-sharp/</a> and so on.</p>
<p>Now here&#8217;s a caveat. Up to a certain point, the growth is only limited to my ideas, sure. But as soon as I have 10,000 RSS feeds to scan every thirty minutes, my server limitation itself might pose a problem. And then I have to find ways to grow my server, which I only do if I can find ways to monetize the site; so up to a certain limit, I&#8217;m fine with making no money, but as soon as I must pay lots of money for the site, I intend to find an income model *or* limit the amount of bloggers I accept (I can not only do this by shutting down the site, but e.g. by analyzing post frequencies similar to thwat Google does when they check pages &#8212; if you never change the RSS, I will check it less and less until the point I might only check it once a month&#8230; and as soon as the posting frequency increases, so will my &#8220;spider&#8221; increase the checks again.)</p>
<p>I am actively thinking of expanding the site into other areas, too. Feedback like this here helps me shape the site, and actually while writing this comment I had a few new ideas <img src='http://agylen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: ugo</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2005/11/12/forty-faces-a-suggestion/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>ugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://agylen.com/2005/11/12/forty-faces-a-suggestion/#comment-541</guid>
		<description>The problem is: people won't even be able to see the posts from the ones they enjoy if they are being pushed off the page by more prolific bloggers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is: people won&#8217;t even be able to see the posts from the ones they enjoy if they are being pushed off the page by more prolific bloggers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://agylen.com/2005/11/12/forty-faces-a-suggestion/#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://agylen.com/2005/11/12/forty-faces-a-suggestion/#comment-540</guid>
		<description>I disagree. As long as the quality of posts is high, then there shouldn't be just one picture for someone. I would have a problem if people started posting just to get on there.  If a few people see a post who wouldn't normally, then it is a success. And over time people will come to know the pictures, and gain an understanding for what each blogger is all about. Then they can stay away from the ones they don't enjoy reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. As long as the quality of posts is high, then there shouldn&#8217;t be just one picture for someone. I would have a problem if people started posting just to get on there.  If a few people see a post who wouldn&#8217;t normally, then it is a success. And over time people will come to know the pictures, and gain an understanding for what each blogger is all about. Then they can stay away from the ones they don&#8217;t enjoy reading.</p>
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